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Howdy...

We are currently trying to set up Trumpet under windows and have an
IBM Token Ring card. We have tried the driver IBMTOKEN.COM in
combination with WINPKT. But we are getting ARP time outs, even when
trying to get to the gateway (which is definately up, verified from other
sources). The network is fine, because others can get their systems to
work. Is there anyone who has solved this type of problem before? And,
if possible (might be asking too much here, but..) is it possible to get
Netware to coexist? (we are currently using LANSUP ODI drivers, which
aparently do not support the ethernet frame type!?)

Anybody got any clues on this one?

Thanks in advance,

Quentin Dunchue
Network Analyst.
NCOM.
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Subject: Re: WinGopher Complete

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (G Gogates) writes:

>I just saw that NOTIS < [e-mail] > is offering WinGopher Complete
>for $129 list availabel 3/31/94.  Besides a gopher client, it's including a
>TCP/IP stack, windows compatable.  When I called the (800)55-NOTIS, they
>indicated that you get GOPHER, a TCP/IP stack and Winsock.dll thru a PPP or
>SLIP connection.  It sounds too good to be true.  Every other commercial
>package is $400.  Sure you don't get all the other apps but the shareware ones
>should work, right?  Does anyone have two cents on this subject?  I've been
>waiting for a reasonably priced Windows PPP connection for awhile.  The ship
>(boat), (dingy) may have come in!

It's true. Notis scraped a deal together with Distinct. They (Notis) are
including the Distinct PPP/SLIP stack and a ping utility with the WinGopher.

They received too many complaints from customers because they (the customers)
had bought the WinGopher and were unable to use it (duh) because they had no
stack (double duh). ;)

-- Munster


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Subject: Re: Chameleon 4.0 Mail

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ewan Grantham) says:

>Particularly bothersome, to me anyway, is the Mailer that comes with the
>package. Am trying to figure out some way to use it offline so that it only
>tries to get/send mail when I tell it too. Since my main access to the net is
>through SLIP, it's nice to not have to be connected to work on mail.
>
>Anyone out there with pointers for configuring this sucker to do this? Or
>pointers to where I missed it in the manual?

Shut down Chameleon, then click on the mail icon.   The newt icon will come up
and the mail window should follow shortly thereafter.  You can then compose
your mail offline and when you are done just press the send button.  The mail
will then be placed in the "outbox".

You can then shut down mail. The next time you start Chameleon and make a
connection, fire up mail and  look under the "services" menu  for "outbox".
Open that up and your mail should be there.  Just press send and you're done.

As for receiving mail.  You can override the default for retrieving mail from
your pop server by looking under the "message" menu and then clicking on
"retrieve mail".

Enjoy!

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jon Tara) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete Holsberg)
>writes:

>>I'm not sure what you mean by dial-on-demand. In both Trumpet Winsock and the
>>Chameleon I borrowed, you have to launch a program and then do a little
>>clicking to get it to dial and then log you in. After that, you invoke the
>>E-mail or news reader or ftp or WinMosaic or whatever. ??

>Dial-on-demand means that you forget about launching a program to dial. You
>just launch, say, your e-mail program.  When the program actually tries to
>access another site, the winsock.dll automatically dials. Most dial-on-demand
>setups can also be configured to automatically hang-up after an idle period,
>and will re-establish the link if something tries to use it again.

Really? Does Tattum's program do this? What about Chameleon?

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Subject: PCTCP 2.3 incompatibility?

Hello all,

  I have 2 Winsock apps which give "gethostbyname" errors.  One is Wintalk
and the other is ws_gmail (an SMTP server for Winsock).  I had wintalk
working fine under PCTCP 2.2 and when I upgraded to 2.3 it quit working.

  I have verified that all entries in support files (hosts, pctcp.ini,
etc) are the same between the two versions and are all valid.

  By using the 2.2 setup, everything works as before.  So, I started
substituting dll's.  I found that the gethostbyname error only shows up when
using the 2.3 pctcpapi.dll.  If I load the known working 2.2 setup only
replace the pctcpapi.dll, I get the error.

  Thus it appears that the new api is not 100% compatible with earlier
versions.

  Can anyone verify this?

David

P.S. Part of this letter was sent directly to an FTP Inc support staff member.
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Pete Holsberg <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jon Tara) writes:
>
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete Holsberg)
>>writes:
>
>>>I'm not sure what you mean by dial-on-demand. In both Trumpet Winsock and the
>>>Chameleon I borrowed, you have to launch a program and then do a little
>>>clicking to get it to dial and then log you in. After that, you invoke the
>>>E-mail or news reader or ftp or WinMosaic or whatever. ??
>
>>Dial-on-demand means that you forget about launching a program to dial. You
>>just launch, say, your e-mail program.  When the program actually tries to
>>access another site, the winsock.dll automatically dials. Most dial-on-demand
>>setups can also be configured to automatically hang-up after an idle period,
>>and will re-establish the link if something tries to use it again.
>
>Really? Does Tattum's program do this? What about Chameleon?

Chameleon doesn't try, Tattum's does but fails to do so properly (Win/QVT,
for example, fails to find <local> config and fails to come up properly).

I'd rather have something unsupported than claimed and not properly working.

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>Subject: Intl keyboard layouts (was: ChameleonNFS evaluation, Part Deux <Long>)
>Date: Sun, 27 Feb 94 11:19:05 PDT


>Does anybody know where to get an International (i.e. German) keyboard layout

>for Telnet in Chameleon 4.0 from ?

>Thx very muc,
>Stephen
this may seem stupid but i just spent 2 1/2 hrs. getting this file from
ftp.netmanage.com and it asks for a serial number and key. what are they?
where do i get them. is this software shareware or copywrighted,etc... if
someone could e-mail me with these answers i'ld be most apreciative.
-Sargon
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